| We can expect to see a lot more articles about our newest $2.5 billion dollar Virginia-class submarine as both the prime contractors (General Dynamics and Northrop Grumman) and the Navy (PMS 450)1 begin their push to justify its unprecedented and jaw dropping price tag! | ![]() |
To date PMS 450 has made very little or no Virginia-class submarine historical or future cost data, supporting data, and related assumptions publicly available2.
It is not meaningful or credible for John Holmander (General Dynamics, Program Office) or others to repeatedly chant numbers, without making public, for analysis, the underlying cost data, supporting data, and assumptions2.
Worse, bordering on insulting is to tell our submarine community and the public "the subs are cool. James Bond cool"3. The subs may be "James Bond cool", especially if your last sub was diesel and you're not current on submarine advances, but the question is are they $2.5 billion dollars per copy cool!?
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1. The Navy's Virginia-class submarine program office—executive officer Rear Admiral William H. Hilarides and Program Manager Captain Michael Jabaley (incoming).
2. These are not fixed priced prime contracts requiring the prime contractors to deliver each submarine at a set price and accept all risk and the loss for not doing so.
On the contrary, these are cost reimbursement contracts requiring the prime contractors to spend our tax dollars until they run out or are told to stop, whichever occurs first.
There is no legitimate reason for not disclosing all cost data for the construction of the Virginia-class submarine so long as the prime contracts remain other than fixed price contracts.
3. See Chris Joyner, Clarion Ledger, New Navy nuclear submarine to be christened 'Mississippi' quoting Michael Jabaley.
| Veterans from the submarine USS Catfish SS-339 visit the pediatrics cancer wing of Loma Linda University Children's Hospital—replica of its sail in tow. | ![]() |
Originally Published June 24, 2008; Updated and Republished July 09, 2008; Updated and Republished August 12, 2008:
Modern electric submarines have less noisy machinery, greater endurance, reduced indiscretion ratio, and use energy absorbing materials. This increased "stealth" has pushed our Navy's antisubmarine warfare efforts in the direction of using lower frequency, higher power sonar.
However, the new sonar's energy may fatally harm or hinder our whales, dolphins, and perhaps other marine life over disputed distances of between 200 - 482,803 meters—an environmental impact study is needed and our Navy is required by law to provide it.
Our Navy has sought to unsuccessfully interpose a waiver in lieu of conducting the required study. After several adverse rulings our Navy has appealed to the United States Supreme Court for relief from conducting the required study.
The next administration and Secretary of Navy must immediately dismiss Winter v. National Resources Defense Council, Inc. (No. 07-1239) and direct the Navy to conduct the needed impact study.
"The navy thus faced the danger of losing its five-year exemption from the Marine Mammal Protection Act. Perhaps, however, that problem represented a small debt the navy could repay the creatures whose hydrodynamic beauty had inspired the father of the submarine more than a century earlier"--Thomas Parrish, The Submarine--
Res: Lower Court Decision against the Navy 518 F.3d 658 (pdf)
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Updated 08/12/2008 NYT, Navy Agrees to Sonar System Restriction and SFGate, Navy to restrict sonar blasts to protect whales, other sea mammals. Navy agrees to limit its usage of low-frequency high power sonar.
Still on appeal from the ninth circuit, in a separate case (see above), is continued usage of mid-frequency sonar.
Updated 07/09/2008 NYT Opinion Rear Admiral Larry Rice, Marine Mammals and the Navy. Submarines are all about optimization under constraints. In order to optimize given a specific constraint we must understand the constraint(s).
The study the Navy seeks to avoid conducting via waiver and litigation is about understanding those constraints marine mammals may impose on our submarines—not four dollar a gallon gas.
It is uncharacteristic for a navy admiral to use demagoguery, PR stunts, and NYT's editorial pages verses the scientific process and data to optimize performance under constraints.

Originally Published August 02, 2008; Updated and Republished August 07, 2008:
Submarine USS Houston (SSN-713) leaked radioactive discharge into the ocean beginning in March 2008. The radioactive leakage is thought to be the result of a faulty valve. The Navy did not give specifics about the valve or the radioactive discharge, saying only the radioactivity was in the microcurie range. A microcurie1 is one millionth of a curie or 37 thousand decaying atoms per second. | ![]() |
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UPDATED 08/21/2008 NavyTimes, City wants to know cause of leak from nuke sub. Japanese city of Sasebo has sent a petition to Tokyo urging it to obtain addition information on the cause of the submarine Houston's recent radiation leak.
The petition also requests the Japanese government to require US nuclear submarines to adhere too additional preventative precautions when entering the port at Sasebo in the future.
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1. Radioactive decay can be of three types, alpha; beta; and gamma and is measured using three different terms:
American submariners are routinely monitored, while on their submarine, for the number of "Rems" their body is absorbing per period of time.
University of Maryland (UM) takes first place in the 11th International Underseas Autonomous Vehicle Competition sponsored by The Association for Unmanned Vehicle Systems International (AUVSI) and Office of Naval Research. Halibut's pioneering remotely operated vehicle (ROV) was little more than a silicon intensified target camera wrapped in a Styrofoam ball. | ![]() |
Underwater currents easily overpowered its puny plastic propulsive propellers making it useful for little more than the pioneering research project it was. On more than one occasion the lifeless "basketball" sized ROV was reeled back into the Halibut by its coaxial tether.
Res: Marine Advanced Technology Education (MATE) Center
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1. Hydroid - REMote environmental sensing UnitS
Originally Published June 04, 2008; Updated and Republished July 30, 2008:
Miss Virginia 2007, Hannah Kiefer, visits America's newest fast attack submarine, USS Virginia, SSN 774. In addition to having our young women visit our newest submarine, our Navy needs to ensure they can stay if they so choose. Hannah, instead of just calling for Miss Virginia 2008 to visit our newest submarine, why not call on the United States Navy to begin assigning our young women to our nation's newest submarine? | ![]() |
Challenge our young women to crew our submarines. Challenge them to design submarines with: lower costs (USS Virginia costs $2.5 billion, plus!); more advanced technology; improved and advanced materials—the sail on which you and the lieutenant stand is so yesterday (it represents approximately 8-9% of the submarine's total hydrodynamic drag1)—a platypus like appendage.
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UPDATED 06/18/2008 Winter: Fewer Subs For Now. Speaking at the United States Naval War College Secretary of Navy, Donald C. Winter said he does not support increasing the Virginia-class submarine production rate (from one to two per year).
”There is no silver-bullet solution to this financial problem,...We must figure out how to build a more cost-effective fleet and build a fleet that is less costly to operate.”--Donald C. Winter--
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1. Increased hydrodynamic drag, all other things being equal, means more propulsion, which requires a larger (noisy and heavy) or more efficient propulsor and/or propulsion plant.
The sail also has other undesirable attributes for the modern submarine. For example added weight, limited maneuverability, larger energy (sonar, radar, magnetic) cross sections, and high center of gravity (instability).
Some of these undesirable attributes are mitigated by manufacturing modern submarine sails from new composite plastics.

Holland VI launched on May 17, 1897 and was delivered to the United States Navy on April 4, 1900. The Navy retroactively designated it SS 1.
Later, Issac Rice merged the Holland Company, Electro-Dynamic Company, and Electric Launch Company to form today's Electric Boat Company, a division of the General Dynamics Corporation.
Originally Published June 20, 2008; Updated and Republished July 16, 2008:
Navy and Army divers will conduct a joint training exercise to raise the Juliett-class submarine K-77, (1960s) cum Russian Submarine Museum.
The submarine was purchased by the USS Saratoga Museum Foundation in 2002 and placed pier-side at Collier Point Park, Providence, Rhode Island. It conducted public tours, until its freak pier-side sinking in April 2007.
The Providence River bathymetry at the sinking site barely covers the sunken submarine. The salvage divers will repair the damaged main ballast tanks and LP air pumps will slowly fill them until K-77 once again floats.
The divers get some practice and Providence can reopen their submarine museum, after a lot of pier-side clean-up and repair.
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Los Angeles-Class (Active;6,900 tons)
Seawolf-Class (Active;9,200 tons)
Virginia-Class (Active;7,800 tons)
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1. Blocks are program points for assessment (congressional, military, design, costs etc) and phase in of prior accumulated design changes, both major and minor.
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