Originally Published May 16, 2008; Updated and Republished September 05, 2008; Updated and Republished September 15, 2008; Updated and Republished December 21, 2008; Updated and Republished December 31, 2008:
Yesterday, House Armed Services Committee (HASC) completed its mark-up process for the fiscal year 2009 Defense Authorization Bill (H.R. 5658), providing $531.4 billion in budget authority. The HASC 2009 budget includes $4,145 million procurement dollars, for the Navy’s Virginia-class submarine program. | ![]() |
HASC added $722 million dollars to the Navy's request of $3,423.5 million dollars. The additional HASC procurement dollars aim to accelerate and increase the submarine’s annual production rate from one to two. General Dynamics and Northrop Grumman now jointly produce one submarine per year under a teaming agreement, which HASC proposes to continue for FY 2009.
The Virginia-class submarine program has been plagued by cost overruns. Many think the submarine's proposed price of $2 billion per copy must be significantly reduced for post Milestone III limited production and production to be sustainable1.
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UPDATED 12/31/2008 US House, Joe Courtney et al. Letter To President-elect Obama (750K pdf). Representative Courtney has coordinated a letter, signed by himself and 27 other representatives5.
The representatives are urging Obama to preserve the Virginia-class submarine platform and its anticipated two submarine per year production rate, including multi-year contracting and advance procurements.
General Dynamics Electric Boat Division is located in Groton Connecticut, part of Joe Courtney's second district.
UPDATED 12/21/2008 NYT Editorial, How to Pay for a 21st-Century Military
"Halt production of the Virginia class sub. Ten of these unneeded attack submarines — modeled on the cold-war-era Seawolf, whose mission was to counter Soviet attack and nuclear launch submarines — have already been built. The program is little more than a public works project to keep the Newport News, Va., and Groton, Conn., naval shipyards in business."--NYT--
It's no accident that Navy acquisition is planning to purchase 10 8 more Virginia class submarines (20 18 total) before the next administration takes office.
It will be a shame to unnecessarily waste so many dollars in contract cancellation and close-out.
UPDATED 09/05/2008 Navy's Newest Submarine Class Conducts Tomahawk Cruise Missile Launches.This Navy reporting does not state what Tomahawk cruise missile variant(s) was/were launched, whether those variants were block III and/or IV or whether all or part of the launches were successful.
It's unclear what "boundaries pushing" Rear Admiral William Hilarides (PMS-PEO 450) is referring to—however, launching cruise missiles from a submarine is not boundary pushing.
The current Los Angles class submarines, SSN 688 through 773, have been successfully launching all Tomahawk cruise missile variants through Block III, for many years.
UPDATED 06/18/2008 Winter: Fewer Subs For Now. Speaking at the United States Naval War College Secretary of Navy, Donald C. Winter said he does not support increasing the Virginia-class submarine production rate (from one to two per year).
”There is no silver-bullet solution to this financial problem,...We must figure out how to build a more cost-effective fleet and build a fleet that is less costly to operate.”--Donald C. Winter--
Res: Northrop Grumman Marketing Data for U.S. Navy's Virginia-class Attack Submarine Program and Promotional Photos.
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1. The submarine is currently costing $2.5 billion per submarine.
2. Likely, the fertile actinoid Thorium 232 in a heavy water moderator, using an advanced fuel rod geometry (i.e. high power density) configuration.
3. Note two, concerning women on Virginia-class submarines has been removed—see comments.
The Advisory Committee on Women in the Services (DACOWITS) has recommended to the Secretary of the Navy and the Chief of Naval Operations that they commit to the integration of women into the submarine community and develop an implementation plan for doing so.
DACOWITS has also recommended that the Secretary of the Navy direct redesign of Virginia-class submarines to accommodate mixed gender crews.
4. Each submarine is purchased without weapons for a fixed price of say $1.65 billion current dollars (weapons are purchased separately for, say another $.850 billion).
The contractor is then "incentivized" with additional dollars, as a function of capital investment (which is huge for shipbuilding) depending on negotiated performance goals.
Contracting on a fixed price basis without an established and fixed submarine design is illusory. The fixed price effectively becomes cost reimbursement each time the design is changed (this applies to the submarine's weapons as well as the submarine itself).
It is useful to use total cost of ownership (aka life-cycle costs) figures as opposed to any single announced price tag. An announced price tag always comes with so many assumptions about future events that it rarely if ever is meaningful or represents the true price, even within large margins of error!
5. Representatives James Langevin, J. Randy Forbes, Brad Ellsworth, Robert Wittman, Betty Sutton, Rosa DeLauro, Robert Brady, Patrick Kennedy, Henry Brown, Robin Hayes, Time Ryan, Michael Doyle, Michael Michaud, Carol Shea-Porter, John Culberson, Paul Hodes, Peter King, John Larson, Jack Kingston, Bob Goodlatte, Timothy Bishop, Christopher Murphy, Madeleine Bordallo, Robert Scott, Norman Dicks, Carolyn McCarthy, and Elijah Cummings.
Last Updated December 23, 2008: Added Block III Subs; USS North Dakota, SSN 784 through SSN 791.
Los Angeles-Class (Active;6,900 tons)
Seawolf-Class (Active;9,200 tons)
Virginia-Class (Active;7,800 tons)
Submarine USS New Mexico Navy League Website, (SSN-779); December 13, 2008 Christening Webcast (first 27 min is pictures and protocol)—Cindy Giambastiani is New Mexico's sponsor.
The band and their music is fantastic.
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1. Blocks are program points for assessment (congressional, military, design, costs etc) and phase in of prior accumulated design changes, both major and minor.
2. Each submarine is purchased without weapons for a fixed price of say $1.65 billion current dollars (weapons are purchased separately for, say another $.850 billion).
The contractor is then "incentivized" with additional dollars, as a function of capital investment (which is huge for shipbuilding) depending on negotiated performance goals.
Contracting on a fixed price basis without an established and fixed submarine design is illusory. The fixed price effectively becomes cost reimbursement each time the design is changed (this applies to the submarine's weapons as well as the submarine itself).
It is useful to use total cost of ownership figures as opposed to any single announced price tag. An announced price tag always comes with so many assumptions about future events that it rarely if ever is meaningful or represents the true price, even within large margins of error!
Originally Published June 04, 2008; Updated and Republished July 30, 2008; Updated and Republished October 15, 2008:
Miss Virginia 2007, Hannah Kiefer, visits America's newest fast attack submarine, USS Virginia, SSN 774. In addition to having our young women visit our newest submarine, our Navy needs to ensure they can stay if they so choose. Hannah, instead of just calling for Miss Virginia 2008 to visit our newest submarine, why not call on the United States Navy to begin assigning our young women to our nation's newest submarine? | ![]() |
Challenge our young women to crew our submarines. Challenge them to design submarines with: lower costs (USS Virginia costs $2.5 billion, plus!); more advanced technology; improved and advanced materials—the sail on which you and the lieutenant stand is so yesterday (it represents approximately 8-9% of the submarine's total hydrodynamic drag1)—a platypus like appendage.
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UPDATED 10/15/2008 UPI, Some urge broader women's role in military.
"These women aren't asking for special privileges," said Manning, a Navy veteran. "We think women and men should be allowed to do any job they are physically qualified to do."
UPDATED 06/18/2008 Winter: Fewer Subs For Now. Speaking at the United States Naval War College Secretary of Navy, Donald C. Winter said he does not support increasing the Virginia-class submarine production rate (from one to two per year).
”There is no silver-bullet solution to this financial problem,...We must figure out how to build a more cost-effective fleet and build a fleet that is less costly to operate.”--Donald C. Winter--
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1. Increased hydrodynamic drag, all other things being equal, means more propulsion, which requires a larger (noisy and heavy) or more efficient propulsor and/or propulsion plant.
The sail also has other undesirable attributes for the modern submarine. For example added weight, limited maneuverability, larger energy (sonar, radar, magnetic) cross sections, and high center of gravity (instability).
Some of these undesirable attributes are mitigated by manufacturing modern submarine sails from new composite plastics.
Originally Published June 20, 2008; Updated and Republished July 16, 2008:
Navy and Army divers will conduct a joint training exercise to raise the Juliett-class submarine K-77, (1960s) cum Russian Submarine Museum.
The submarine was purchased by the USS Saratoga Museum Foundation in 2002 and placed pier-side at Collier Point Park, Providence, Rhode Island. It conducted public tours, until its freak pier-side sinking in April 2007.
The Providence River bathymetry at the sinking site barely covers the sunken submarine. The salvage divers will repair the damaged main ballast tanks and LP air pumps will slowly fill them until K-77 once again floats.
The divers get some practice and Providence can reopen their submarine museum, after a lot of pier-side clean-up and repair.
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The USS Halibut (SSN-587) 2008 Reunion is being held in New London, Connecticut on September 18 - 21, 2008. The Halibut Veterans' Association has arranged, for attendees staying at the Radisson Hotel New London to receive a nominal discount rate on request1. New London September Weather Avgs: High Temp: 72oF; Low Temp: 54oF; Precip: 4.06 inches (current weather in New London, CT). | Virginia Class Submarine Attack Center2 |

Here is a near real-time picture (updated every minute) at Avery Point looking across the Thames River harbor inlet toward Seaside—approximately three miles down river from the Radisson Hotel New London.
The New London Ledge Light3 is a historic lighthouse located in the Thames River harbor inlet adjacent to Avery Point. The historic lighthouse contains a modern weather station.
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USS Nautilus (SSN 571) Thames River Museum, Groton, CT.

Reunion 2008; Attend Sub-School Class (Official Navy Site):
Reunion 2008; Dinners:
![]() | Reunion 2008 Guest Speaker: Halibut veteran and author of "Spy Sub", Roger C. Dunham MD. (left). He will report on his recent tour of the Navy's latest Virginia-class submarine, USS Hawaii, SSN 776. |
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Possible Places To Visit (in or near New London):
Foxwoods Resort Casino (World's Largest Casino - area map)
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New London Maritime Society, Amidstad (aerial map). The Customhouse displays a scaled replica and brief history of the famous Spanish schooner and slave ship, La Amistad. (see Amistad Revolt - An Historical Legacy of Sierra Leone and the United States for a more details).
Technically, La Amistad was not designated a slave ship. However, its below decks manacles belied its technical designation.
Today, thousands of children track, via the internet and Google maps, a full scale La Amistad as it sails the world teaching others about the horrors of the Transatlantic Slave Trade.
Connecticut and its leaders marked their opposition to America's slavery, even as our judiciary and southern states slogged their way toward the fateful Dred Scott decision and our nation's Civil War.
Taverns, Pubs, Bars, and Inns—New London Area

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Flickr Photos; New London, Connecticut A great way (not to mention enjoyable) to get ideas for a trip is to see what others have photographed in the area.
Amateur photographers take some of the most amazing picture, if by accident!
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1. Very often fees, surcharges, or complimentary services make the total cost of one hotel higher or lower when compared to another—it never hurts to ask for complimentary services.
It is amazing the huge stock and variety of "comps" a good hotel negotiates with local and non-local businesses and provide their special guests on request—complimentary gym/spa access, complimentary shuttle service to casinos, complimentary WiFi access, complimentary movies, complimentary discounts on: shows; plays; symphony; seasonal attractions; special activities; eateries; beverages; cruises; parking; rental cars; plane-train-bus-fares; sight-seeing tours etc... On and on...
You can contact the New London Radisson's Front Office Manager, Scott Brodie, here: rhi_newl[replace brackets and text with the appropriate symbol]radisson.com
2. The Attack Center (roughly Control to Halibut veterans) is highly integrated and computerized with flat-panel displays galore, including two large displays (vertical and horizontal) for the attack (approach) officer (roughly OOD to Halibut veterans).
The 20 or so watches for the standard Attack Center are collectively referred to as the New Attack Submarine Command, Control, Communications and Intelligence (C3I) System: Approach Officer; FCC; Combat Control Operators(3); Sonar Supervisor; Sonar Operator(5); CCS TSD Operator; Tactical Display Evaluator; Integrated Tactical Display Operator; Photonics Operator (very expensive panoramic digital periscope to Halibut veterans); Radar Operator; and Fathometer Operator; Pilot; Copilot; and Relief Pilot (roughly Diving Officer, Chief of the Watch, Helmsman, Planesman, to Halibut veterans).
3. If you look close at the webcam picture you can see the Ledge Light (41.304974° Longitude: -72.078297°) out in the inlet harbor (almost center of picture). A boat takes visitors to the Ledge Light (Adults,$19; Children 6-12, $16; no children under 6 permitted for safety reasons), a tour lasting about 2 hours. Tour demand in September is low so only one tour on Saturday is provided.
Each Lighthouse is assigned a distinct and unique light color and flash pattern—the Ledge Light flashes three whites and one red flash every 30 seconds.
The decorative lighthouse in the picture's foreground is the Avery Point lighthouse, which no longer functions.
4. Bushnell's Turtle drawing is courtesy of the Mayflower Families who have been so essential in documenting our nation's early history.
United States, National Oceanographic Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) will survey the World War Two sites of three sunken German submarines, U-85, U-352, and U-701.
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In a milestone first the United States Navy has simultaneously deployed all four of its SSGN submarine platforms1.

Web: SSGN Class Marks First – Entire Class at Sea Simultaneously
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1. These are former Ohio-Class ballistic missile submarines (SSBN) which have been converted for tactical use—the nuclear ballistic missiles have been replaced by cartridges of Navy cruise missiles and teams of seal guys (no women, yet) and paramilitary types, including their exotic equipment; [USS Ohio (SSGN 726), USS Michigan (SSGN 727), USS Florida (SSGN 728), USS Georgia (SSGN 729)].
Think of a submarine launching cruise missiles, seal guys, and paramilitary types to take-out an al Qaeda bad guy hide-out (or other installations and sites) and pickup laptops, intelligence, bad guys (an occasional good guy), DNA samples, other things of national security interest, and periodically take photos (occasionally useful in moments of diplomatic denial or subterfuge).
On this day, October 28, 1968, the USNS Mizar (T-AGOR-11) towed her magnetometer and cameras over a sunken wreckage two miles below. Two days later the United States Navy declared to the world that the sunken USS Scorpion (SSN 589) had been located. A recently published book, by Ed Offley, Scorpion Down, Basic Books, 2007 provides convincing, compelling, and conclusive primary source accounts that the Mizar’s October 28, 1968 “discovery” was nothing more than an elaborate “cover story”, by senior Navy and government officials, to obfuscate the fact that the wreckage had been located months earlier on June 9, 1968, by the USS Compass Island (EAG 153)1. | ![]() |
To submarine fiction readers Scorpion Down will read like a submarine thriller that drops depth charge after depth charge until the truth about Scorpion’s sinking is finally forced to surface.
To USS Halibut (SSN 587)2 submariners it will read like a detailed x-y grid plot of a target area after years of patient passes in a very dark sea, which finally promises to illuminate the target and enable recovery ... of the truth.
Offley has left many actively pinging transponders on a carefully constructed high probability, narrow confidence band grid of targets. I suspect it will not take 25 more years to recover documentary evidence of the truth about Scorpion's3 sinking.

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1. In the world of intelligence, especially military intelligence, especially superpower military intelligence it is actually very difficult and expensive to slow the relatively short half-life of a secret. Human actions will always belie randomness and thus secrecy, so intelligence officials use cover stories to explain the human non-randomness. Or as John Craven, technical coordinator of the Mizar’s Scorpion search might say: an ideal cover story must always be true and explain every aspect of non-random behavior with respect to the secret(s) being protected.
According to Offley’s compelling case the ultimate secret sought to be protected is that the former USSR intentionally torpedoed and sunk the USS Scorpion, on May 22, 1968 at 1644 (4:44 pm local time) in retaliation for the earlier US sinking of USSR’s K-129 submarine. The cover story used by senior Navy and government officials was intentionally or unintentionally articulated by Craven. Craven maintained and reasserted to Offley that the USS Scorpion sank as a result of an internally exploding torpedo (hot-running torpedo).
Later, when images (Navy and Ballard) of the sunken Scorpion showed no sign of an internal explosion the cover story was tweaked, by the USS Scorpion’s board of inquiry to say that the hot-running torpedo was jettisoned by crew members and then spontaneously locked on and sunk the Scorpion.
Offley conclusively demonstrates that senior Navy and government officials responded to the Scorpion’s sinking within hours of its May 22, 1968 sinking. This fatally torpedoes and sinks the official cover story. The old cover story cannot be tweaked, amended or salvaged, Craven's assertions notwithstanding – it has been fatally and conclusively blasted out of the water.
Offley, having successfully sunk the Scorpion’s cover story goes on to construct a theory of why Navy and government officials covered up the fact that they had begun the Scorpion search within hours not days and located the wreckage within days not months of its sinking. In this effort Offley is less successful. He unnecessarily complicates his theory by weaving in the Walker spy ring, North Korea’s proxy piracy of the spy ship USS Pueblo (AGER-2) and Russia’s access to submarine crypto gear, KLB-47, KWR-37, and KW-7.
2. Offley incorrectly associates hull number 575 with the USS Halibut (SSN 587). Submarine hull number 575 belongs to Halibut’s sister ship the USS Seawolf (SSN 575). In Offley’s book the Seawolf was scheduled to participate in upcoming NATO exercises in the then volatile Mediterranean. However, system failures forced Seawolf into the shipyard and Scorpion took her place for the Mediterranean NATO exercise.
As noted above Halibut figures into Offley’s book as the submarine that located the sunken Russian submarine K-129. According to Offley’s book Scorpion was sunk in retaliation for America’s earlier sinking of K-129, which Halibut then located and photographed. The CIA subsequently salvaged the K-129 submarine using the USNS Glomar Explorer (T-AG-193) – remember the manganese nodules cover story?
America honored a prior Russian request to provide evidence that the K-129 submariners recovered in the salvage operation were given a proper at sea burial. America presented Russian President Boris Yeltsin with photos of the sunken K-129, the at sea burial ceremony, and the flags used during the at sea burial of the recovered K-129 Russian submariners.
3. Another book on the USS Scorpion by Kenneth Sewell and Jerome Preisler, All Hands Down: the true story of the Soviet attack on the USS Scorpion, Simon and Schuster, 2008 is schedule for publication around April 15, 2008 (Sewell is also co-author, with Clint Richmond, of Red Star Rogue: the untold story of a Soviet submarine's nuclear strike attempt on the U.S.).
What submariner, as described in All Hands Down, in the entire US Submarine Force, officer or enlisted, standing an in port 15 hour engineering watch would ever request the below decks watch to wake the captain so he (engineering watch) could take a piss?